Comments for Hey! Over here...Yeah... F-r-a-n-c-e. http://blog.cocagne.com Cancan, foie gras, computers, expatriotism Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:20:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 Comment on Climaticide by Why Call it “Climaticide”? Calling Things By Their True Names « Johnny Rook’s Climaticide Chronicles http://blog.cocagne.com/climaticide.htm#comment-9985 Why Call it “Climaticide”? Calling Things By Their True Names « Johnny Rook’s Climaticide Chronicles Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:26:57 +0000 http://blog.cocagne.com/climaticide.htm#comment-9985 [...] several months ago (only afterwards did I learn that the term already existed in French but with a narrower meaning) to describe the human-driven destruction of our Holocene-epoch climate, the climate in which our [...] […] several months ago (only afterwards did I learn that the term already existed in French but with a narrower meaning) to describe the human-driven destruction of our Holocene-epoch climate, the climate in which our […]

]]> Comment on How to Fire in France by site admin http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7120 site admin Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:07:44 +0000 http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7120 >Thus begins the next step towards true Fascism. Wow, Jonathan, I think the first several steps towards true fascism have happened over the last several years in one large country I can think of, but I do not think it is France. Addendum: the comments here are now being dominated by US right-wingers France=Fascism type remarks, which is an ironic change from last century US right-wingers France=Communism type comments. Out of respect for what remains decent in this world, I am closing down the comments channel. >Thus begins the next step towards true Fascism.

Wow, Jonathan, I think the first several steps towards true fascism have happened over the last several years in one large country I can think of, but I do not think it is France.

Addendum: the comments here are now being dominated by US right-wingers France=Fascism type remarks, which is an ironic change from last century US right-wingers France=Communism type comments. Out of respect for what remains decent in this world, I am closing down the comments channel.

]]> Comment on How to Fire in France by Jonathan http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7119 Jonathan Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:03:28 +0000 http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7119 Just to note, this was not in response to Keith, it was in response to Math. Just to note, this was not in response to Keith, it was in response to Math.

]]> Comment on How to Fire in France by Jonathan http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7118 Jonathan Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:51:29 +0000 http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7118 If those laws continue for France, eventually there will no longer be private businesses and the government will HAVE to run everything. Thus begins the next step towards true Fascism. Also, in the U.S. I have never been fired from any job I have had. I guess my problem must be that I give them no reason to fire me. Employers are not the souless demons incompetant people make them out to be. If you do a good job, you are rewarded well. If you do a poor job, you are not rewarded. It's true though, in America you can be fired if you are incompetant, but if someone is incompetant at what they are doing, he or she should be doing something else. If those laws continue for France, eventually there will no longer be private businesses and the government will HAVE to run everything. Thus begins the next step towards true Fascism.

Also, in the U.S. I have never been fired from any job I have had. I guess my problem must be that I give them no reason to fire me. Employers are not the souless demons incompetant people make them out to be. If you do a good job, you are rewarded well. If you do a poor job, you are not rewarded. It’s true though, in America you can be fired if you are incompetant, but if someone is incompetant at what they are doing, he or she should be doing something else.

]]> Comment on How to Fire in France by Jeff http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7117 Jeff Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:16:27 +0000 http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7117 I've worked 14 years in the US and have lost exactly ZERO jobs. My compensation has risen every year over year for the last 14. How exactly is this favoring the employer? I need some help figuring out how I'm being exploited. Pouvez-vous m'aider? I’ve worked 14 years in the US and have lost exactly ZERO jobs. My compensation has risen every year over year for the last 14. How exactly is this favoring the employer? I need some help figuring out how I’m being exploited. Pouvez-vous m’aider?

]]> Comment on How to Fire in France by Keith http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7116 Keith Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:58:47 +0000 http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7116 Performing the job you were hired to do, and performing it well is your job security here in the states. I have been fired once, and I can say it had nothing to do with my performance. I went out and got another job. I didn't sit on my butt crying about how "unfair" it was. I didn't receive any unemployment insurance. I got off my butt, and found another job. If you're working for a tyrant then you quit, and go somewhere else. It is not, or it should not be the roll of government to babysit the people it serves. The roll of government should be to protect the people. "Government is not the solution to the problem. Government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan Performing the job you were hired to do, and performing it well is your job security here in the states.
I have been fired once, and I can say it had nothing to do with my performance.
I went out and got another job. I didn’t sit on my butt crying about how “unfair” it was. I didn’t receive any unemployment insurance. I got off my butt, and found another job.
If you’re working for a tyrant then you quit, and go somewhere else.
It is not, or it should not be the roll of government to babysit the people it serves. The roll of government should be to protect the people.

“Government is not the solution to the problem. Government is the problem.” - Ronald Reagan

]]> Comment on How to Fire in France by chris h http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7115 chris h Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:47:25 +0000 http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7115 why should job security be a given atz if an employer is smart they wont fire someone for a stupid reason because word will get out they are a bad boss and wont beable to get many more employees. most buisnesses these days realize that with no workers it is hard to get work done so they try to attract and keep the best workers they can. why should job security be a given atz if an employer is smart they wont fire someone for a stupid reason because word will get out they are a bad boss and wont beable to get many more employees. most buisnesses these days realize that with no workers it is hard to get work done so they try to attract and keep the best workers they can.

]]> Comment on How to Fire in France by Chris G http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7114 Chris G Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:24:32 +0000 http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7114 Actually, there is Unemployment Insurance in the US, also. It is intended to prevent the "coin toss" firings Math suggests. An employer can have an insurance claim made against them unless the termination was for criminal behavior or incompetence on the job. Additionally, the employer can be sued (challenged, if you will), by the former employee if the employer named incompetence or criminal conduct falsely. However, an employee can only claim Unemployment Insurance payments if they held the job for 6 months or more and it is only a percentage of their average wage/salary. Actually, there is Unemployment Insurance in the US, also. It is intended to prevent the “coin toss” firings Math suggests. An employer can have an insurance claim made against them unless the termination was for criminal behavior or incompetence on the job. Additionally, the employer can be sued (challenged, if you will), by the former employee if the employer named incompetence or criminal conduct falsely. However, an employee can only claim Unemployment Insurance payments if they held the job for 6 months or more and it is only a percentage of their average wage/salary.

]]> Comment on How to Fire in France by Jeff http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7113 Jeff Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:54:51 +0000 http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7113 As a small business owner in the US (about 10 employees), I think that the US system works just fine. The benefit of the US system to me (the employer) is that my employees stay motivated and work hard. The benefit to the employee is that their company is successful due to their performance, and their job security is improved because of this. They realize that if the company fails due to their lack of performance, then everyone in the company will lose their job. As a small business owner in the US (about 10 employees), I think that the US system works just fine. The benefit of the US system to me (the employer) is that my employees stay motivated and work hard. The benefit to the employee is that their company is successful due to their performance, and their job security is improved because of this. They realize that if the company fails due to their lack of performance, then everyone in the company will lose their job.

]]> Comment on How to Fire in France by Bruce http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7112 Bruce Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:33:40 +0000 http://blog.cocagne.com/how-to-fire-in-france.htm#comment-7112 Unscrupulous employers exist, but in my twenty-plus years of work, lazy employees are in far greater supply, in the US, UK, and the EU! Most parts of the US have unemployment insurance as well, and the cost is covered 100% by the employer. In my home state, the only times the fired employee is not eligible for unemployment insurance is if the employee quits, or is fired for cause (i.e., theft, improper conduct, harassment, lying about education/experience, etc.). Employees in the US are covered quite well. The problem with forcing employers to keep employees is that the growth in the economy of the US for the last ten years has been nearly entirely in the small business (1-25 employees), not the larger companies. These people are funding these companies with their own personal funds, not government taxes or venture capital. Why force me to take money out of my family's savings account to pay an employee to sit? Unscrupulous employers exist, but in my twenty-plus years of work, lazy employees are in far greater supply, in the US, UK, and the EU! Most parts of the US have unemployment insurance as well, and the cost is covered 100% by the employer. In my home state, the only times the fired employee is not eligible for unemployment insurance is if the employee quits, or is fired for cause (i.e., theft, improper conduct, harassment, lying about education/experience, etc.). Employees in the US are covered quite well.

The problem with forcing employers to keep employees is that the growth in the economy of the US for the last ten years has been nearly entirely in the small business (1-25 employees), not the larger companies. These people are funding these companies with their own personal funds, not government taxes or venture capital. Why force me to take money out of my family’s savings account to pay an employee to sit?

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